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OliverMarshall
05-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Victory in Europe day today



History:

At 02:41 on the morning of, May 7, 1945, at the SHAEF headquarters in Rheims, France, the Chief-of-Staff of the German Armed Forces High Command, General Alfred Jodl, signed the unconditional surrender documents for all German forces to the Allies. All active operations were to cease at 23:01 Central European Time on May 8 1945. However as the British were operating on British Double Summer Time this was 00:01 May 9 in London.[1]

Western journalists broke the bombshell news of Germany's surrender prematurely, precipitating the earlier celebration. Fighting continued on the Eastern front in May however, when the Germans surrendered specifically to the Soviets at Karlshorst. The Soviet Union kept to the agreed celebration date, and Russia and other countries still commemorate the end of World War II, a significant part of which is known as the Great Patriotic War in Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union, as Victory Day on May 9.

By 8 May 1945, most of Germany had already been taken by Allied forces. Hence V-E day itself was not such a drastic change for most German civilians. In the years after, V-E day was predominantly perceived as the day of defeat. But over the decades, this perception changed, culminating in the speech by West German President Richard von Weizsäcker on the 40th anniversary of V-E day in 1985, in which he called 8 May "the day of liberation" from the Nazi government.

The Allied victory over Japan, and with it the formal end of World War II, was known as V-J Day. It took place on August 14/15, 1945.


Celebrations:

On that date, massive celebrations took place, notably in London, where over a million people celebrated in a carnival atmosphere the end of the European war, though rationing of food and clothing was to continue for a number of years. In London crowds massed in particular in Trafalgar Square and up The Mall to Buckingham Palace, where King George VI and Queen Elizabeth, accompanied by the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, appeared on the balcony of the Palace to cheering crowds. Princess Elizabeth (the future Queen Elizabeth II) and her sister Princess Margaret were allowed to wander anonymously among the crowds and take part in the celebrations in London.

In the United States, President Harry Truman, who celebrated his 61st birthday that day, dedicated the victory to the memory of his predecessor, Franklin D. Roosevelt, because he had been so committed to ending the war. Roosevelt had died less than a month earlier, on April 12. Flags remained at half-staff for the remainder of the 30-day mourning period, which ended on May 12, to pay tribute to Roosevelt's commitment towards ending the war.

ShaunCowdell
05-08-2007, 06:28 PM
I still find it hard to believe that a conflict of such massive proportions ever took place.
You can only comprehend so much when numbers and digits are used to explain it.

When I wake up in about 3 hours I will dedicate 5 minutes of my time to all that served in the second world war.
I think I may write a short paper on my feelings towards it, watch the sun rise or even write a poem.
It's sadly all I can give and I know it deserves more.

It's only over the past few years I have truly been interested/immersed at the history of the second world war.
It took me a lot to transform the black and white photos into real people. The casualty statistics into real deaths and the vastness of it all into something I still have difficulty understanding.

This is some random thing I wrote up a while ago. My writing skills are still very primitive but I really feel for what I wrote.


In war I will mourn for both sides, I am not religious nor have any political view on the matter.
But, for anyone that is willing to sacrifice their own life in what they think is right I will give them my utmost respect.
Whether it is for their country, their beliefs, their comrades or simply their homes I will respect that.
For even the kamikaze attacks on the American ships, when they recovered the Japanese pilots bodies they were buried at sea with full honors.

To all lost in mans futile act of war you will always be remembered, no matter what you were fighting for.
Whatever you did is no worse than mans creation of war itself.

Raven

enigma
05-08-2007, 08:03 PM
62 years ago, its hard to imagine sometimes that because of those 6 years the world for the last 62 have been shaped the way they have been.
So may ideals, lives, techologies, freedoms etc etc where lost and won.

As for the figures, the figures never mean anything to me. I guess because there such large numbers that they are just statistics and void of indviduality.
That is until, you see the photographs of the graveyards .... gravestones upon gravestones, or the evidence of the genocide or bloody battles - corpses everywhere etc

Its a shame however that the war could not kill off the ideologies which started it all off as it was in most cases the people...

Hells Angel
05-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Raven you completely blew my mind with that, It's exactly how i feel about all conflict. I also respect you for the dedication you give the day, it always makes me sad that these things are looked over.

Sgt So and So
05-08-2007, 09:11 PM
Well, since we don't have a Teamspeak server yet, I'll do a post of silence.























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biggles
05-08-2007, 10:51 PM
6 years.
6 years of total war, the most destructive war of mankind to this date, and it happened only 62 years ago. And it wasn't even the end (let's not forget VJ-day people).
6 years. About 40-60 million dead. God knows how many wounded.
6 years that changed mankinds history more than anything we have accomplished I belive. I thank God, existing or not, that it ended as it did, because it could have been much,much worse....